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User999999
posted 2/22/2017  22:50Send e-mail to userReply with quote
Hi, my name is Dylan,
I'm writing a paper on the general concepts and ideas of AI, If anyone would like to talk about some of their noteworthy accomplishments or express your thoughts on any of these questions below, I would be grateful, thanks.
1. what is your thoughts on a neural network(such as the one proposed by Elon Musk) and do you believe it would be beneficial or harmful?
2. What do you believe is the number one challenge to overcome involving the progress of AI?
3. Do you believe that AI will dominate our society in the future, and in what ways?
4. Do you believe AI's can really ever truly think or are they simply responding to the way they are programmed?
5. How far away, if possible, do you believe strong ai is from becoming a reality. (specifically an uncontrolled AI, that would be capable of learning anything it had access to)?
6. Do you believe that AI will ever have a potential to be harmful or have the ability to be a threat to the world?
That's all for now, Thanks in advance.


tkorrovi
posted 2/23/2017  01:47Send e-mail to userReply with quote
 
User999999 wrote @ 2/22/2017 10:50:00 PM:
If anyone would like to talk about some of their noteworthy accomplishments or express your thoughts on any of these questions below, I would be grateful, thanks.

 
These words carry an additional burden, that is left unsaid. What will that paper be for, maybe a debate of Musk, Gates, Google and Hawking versus any alternative views, that by the pressure of the media will end with the win of Musk, Gates, Google and Hawking?

This forum is the place where supposed to be the gees for the wonderful AI ideas of Musk, Gates, Google, Hawking, et al, but here is silence.

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Last edited by tkorrovi @ 2/23/2017 1:48:00 AM

tkorrovi
posted 2/23/2017  02:41Send e-mail to userReply with quote
> 1. what is your thoughts on a neural network(such as the one proposed by Elon Musk) and do you believe it would be beneficial or harmful?

Artificial neural networks are restricted in that they cannot model processes, or can do that in only a very restricted way.

> 2. What do you believe is the number one challenge to overcome involving the progress of AI?

To do a fundamental scientific research instead of the "applied science".

> 3. Do you believe that AI will dominate our society in the future, and in what ways?

In ideal, it will be important for the society, but not seen.

> 4. Do you believe AI's can really ever truly think or are they simply responding to the way they are programmed?

So confirm the idea that they are conventional machines, no, self-developing models are not conventional machines, think about the electronic circuit simulators for example, all that happens there cannot be "pre-programmed".

> 5. How far away, if possible, do you believe strong ai is from becoming a reality. (specifically an uncontrolled AI, that would be capable of learning anything it had access to)?

I can answer about True AI, i don't know about Strong AI, it looks like an attack against straw man. True AI can be researched, and it is a research, in that sense it is a reality today. That it would be capable of learning anything, yes that's possible, but do you understand that there is a huge gap between being capable, and doing much at all. I think it is important as a theoretical research, and extremely important as such.

> 6. Do you believe that AI will ever have a potential to be harmful or have the ability to be a threat to the world?

Do you understand how much one should assume to ask that question, and in how many questionable things does one have to believe for that? One should believe that AI is something like god, but it is not. What threat, a danger that it can enslave all people, can even humans completely enslave all people, can anyone? And people, people can use AI to fight against AI if that is necessary, doubting that they may not be capable of is doubting in any worth of the human nature. But so far, the threat has not been AI itself, but the people who use AI against other people, and so it seems to remain, in spite that these people may say that AI is responsible and the threat is AI, just so that no one can see that these people are the threat.

And, don't thank me for giving these answers, i don't know whether i like what you thank me for.

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Last edited by tkorrovi @ 2/23/2017 2:49:00 AM

AiHasBeenSolved
posted 3/19/2017  06:22Send e-mail to userReply with quote
 
User999999 wrote @ 2/22/2017 10:50:00 PM:
Hi, my name is Dylan,
I'm writing a paper on the general concepts and ideas of AI, If anyone would like to talk about some of their noteworthy accomplishments or express your thoughts on any of these questions below, I would be grateful, thanks.
[...]
5. How far away, if possible, do you believe strong ai is from becoming a reality. (specifically an uncontrolled AI, that would be capable of learning anything it had access to)?


 
Strong AI patents are up for grabs. First come, first served.

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farasatkhan
posted 6/19/2017  09:10Send e-mail to userReply with quote
Humans need more processing power but a machine does not, this technology will come with its adverse effects. A study based upon 352 experts suggested that by 2136 all human jobs will be overtook by high-level machine intelligence. The technology is still evolving and getting hands on skills and moving up the ladder of taking up the jobs from humans. A bot from Momentum Machines can make and flip a burger in 10 seconds; we are seeing replacement to the fast food crew. And that is not it a manufacturing firm, Universal Robots has created a handy device that could solder, paint, screw and even glue.

I belief in the myth that super intelligence by 2100 is inevitable but the fact remains, nobody knows when it can happen in decades or in centuries. The final words remain that intelligence enable control that is the reason why a human can control an animal or a machine but the time has arrived intelligence is set and in place; so do we see a future controlled by Robots and Computer Programs still require years to unleash.

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tkorrovi
posted 6/19/2017  12:15Send e-mail to userReply with quote
 
farasatkhan wrote @ 6/19/2017 9:10:00 AM:
A study based upon 352 experts suggested that by 2136 all human jobs will be overtook by high-level machine intelligence.

 
Then why not to have a 4 hour working day, is the development of technology to make human lives better or is it for something else?

I don't think that by 2136 all human jobs will be overtaken by robots, i don't think they will be capable of that for the next 1000 years, if it ever makes sense. But even 2136 is far away, meanwhile, when less jobs will be outsourced to China and elsewhere, a lot of automation has to be developed. A lot of work is necessary for that, and the number of jobs i think will be increased a lot, not decreased. So no need to worry for the next 20 years i guess, but then there certainly have to be some changes in the society due to the new reality. I hope it will bring a better and more free world, some hope directly the opposite.

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maks
posted 6/22/2017  13:37Send e-mail to userReply with quote
never say never!
the future in the mist .Not forget of exponential grows .
SINGULARITY is real as our imagination.

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