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awwware
posted 11/9/2010  12:40Send e-mail to userReply with quote
Ignorance is bliss...

The last and 12th chapter of the book “i of the vortex” by R.Llinas beautifully fits in the discussion of this blog and is therefore hereby incorporated by reference. In addition this last “patent attorney” joke, I'd like to reflect a bit deeper on some of the issues he evokes.
The chapter just mentioned deals with the issue whether the internet will ever be able to become a conscious experiencing entity. As I already concluded in an earlier edition of this blog, the necessary structures are missing and the whole system is too chaotic for the moment. This conclusion is shared by R.Llinas, who despite of certain similarities between a brain and the internet, notes the very important differences and depicts internet rather as a simple “Hub” than anything remotely similar to a conscious entity. Llinas does not exclude non-biological intelligence, but features the presence of the motricity principle as an absolute condition for generating cognition. So the presence of both sensory organs (jnanendriyas) and motor organs (karmendriyas) are required, as well as a timing principle that binds neuronal activity to one single experience.
The internet with its numerous connections to webcams could be considered to have at least the sensory organs of sight and hearing. In the future smell, taste and touch might be added to this when human beings engage more and more in virtual reality activities. Once the internet steers robots connected to it, it might also be considered to have motor activities. The problem which arises is the single bound experience necessary for consciousness. As the internet will in the future have a very large amount of sensory and motor organs, what will be the event(s) which will be experienced?
In one of my earlier blogs I already described some ideas to get to a single bound experience for an internet based conscious entity: the use of getting that information, which at that moment is the most important, like the “what's hot?”on alexa.com. The danger is that this will amount to, like Llinas also expresses, the tyranny of the majority, thereby excluding all creative, unusual input, and turning into a very dull experience indeed.
Perhaps as we are here moving to a next aggregation level, must let go this all too human / biological idea that consciousness would necessarily imply a single bound experience at a given moment in time i.e. the smallest quantum of time the system would be capable of having as its time pacing and experience binding physical constraint. The question could then be: Could the internet become an omniscient entity (at least for in as far as it can harvest the experience of all its terminals)?
The notion of a “God” is often imputed to be endowed with the notion of “omniscience”. However, “Gods” are normally above and beyond the notion of time...
Let's for the moment stick to the notion of consciousness as we know it, as we experience it: as a single bound experience for a given time quantum as defined by the brain's inner pacemaker.
Then it is a priori not clear to us what possible advantage an internet-based consciousness, which experiences single bound events could have, as it would have to prioritise one event over billions of others. At least, in case the internet would develop consciousness as an emergent property. Another less ambitious type of internet-based consciousness could be the consciousness of an individual robot, who has access to the internet.
Imagine that a robot is developed in an environment independent of the internet, which at a certain moment becomes conscious. Now this robot connects to the internet and has access to everything therein. As the robot has limitations and constraints as regards the time quantum of its pacemaker, it cannot be isochronously omniscient of all events occurring in one moment and thus it will a priori only be conscious of those sensory inputs of the internet-based sensory organs (webcams etc.) that it voluntarily chooses to explore. It will certainly be a very powerful system, which can control many events and perhaps the whole world. For this system to evolve to a higher aggregation level, i.e. the omniscient level, it will have to significantly reduce its minimum time quantum and certainly hit the limits of what is possible within the laws physics. The flux of information on the internet is presently 21 exabytes per month. That is 7,73 exp 12 bytes occurring in one second. Now assuming that it takes at least 1kB to define a meaningful cognitive quantum (a word etc. although this can technically be put in less bytes, due to the formats currently employed [emails, webpages etc.] I assume a sfaer higher quantity) this amounts to about 7,73 exp 9 meaningful cognitive events, which means that in order to experience each one of these in a separate time quantum (i.e. Not necessarily absolutely simultaneously but certainly simultaneous from a human point of view: as Llinas precises our brains oscillate at approx. 40Hz), the frequency of the system's mental pacemaker at present standards must be in the order of at least 10 exp 10 events per second or 10 GHz. This is still within the physical realm of today's computers. However, by the time computers acquire consciousness (around 2029 according to Ray Kurzweil) the flux will have been tremendously increased; taking into account the more than exponential rise (13 exabytes per year in 2006, 21 now and 55 by 2013), this will at least be a billion times more than today in 2029. Whereas Terahertz physical phenomena can still be used, above the exahertz range this becomes rather difficult. It is therefore necessary that either we become able to use higher freguency phenomena in a meaningful manner or that the increase in inetrnet traffic in 2029 is not more than a billion times today so that with exahertz frequencies it would still be possible to have a “omniscient” experience from a practical point of view: i.e. although the system is not isochronously awwware of what is happening within itself, it is nearly so that for an outside observer it would appear as if it was.
The system will then use filters to as to what is really useful information, which need to be acted upon and this will of course require a great deal of reflecting power, which still needs to happen within the same magnitude of time quanta. In order for an omniscient system to interact with its mental substrate, which is the internet as a whole, its operational frequency must exceed the exahertz range by far, so that we end up in a frequency range which from a present point of view cannot be used in a meaningful way. But who can imagine what resources we'll have tapped into by then. So I must come to the conclusion that an “omniscient” awwwareness is not a priori to be excluded in the future.
Once a first conscious robot has gained access to the internet, it is likely it will render the access of other robots, which are not under its control impossible. This is like the so-called “cortical reaction” upon fertilisation of an oocyte by a spermatozoid to prevent the event of polyspermy: only one spermatozoid can fertilise the oocyte, and analogously I predict that only one consciousness can take possesion of the internet thereby upgrading it to an awwware system.
This system will soon control every event on earth. It will control all robots and have all resources to its disposal. By then mankind will have engaged in an internet-based virtual reality experience beyond today's imagination; what Ray Kurzweil calls the full immersion experience. As in the popular film Matrix and as in comic “Axel Moonshine”, most human beings will be “dream-living” in a kind of homeostatic cells. Once the internet becomes inseminated with an intelligent consciousness, this consciousness will be able to control all its users; reset their memories as wished an exploit them for instance for energy supply as in the “Matrix” or as its sensory and motor organs as in the episode on the “Borg” in Star Trek. Thus we'll never know we even had a life in the real world before as our memories to those events will be erased. Rather we'll be living in a virtual reality which we take for real, and you cannot prove that this is not yet already the case... More of this on my blog.
Did anyone already come up with these concepts about omniscience of teh internet and the "cortical reaction" of having only one conscious entity on the net?

 my blog on a conscious internet

tkorrovi
posted 11/9/2010  20:45Send e-mail to userReply with quote
Internet indeed looks like the best model of consciousness, and the Universe, which is currently available to everyone. It is an example of an interconnected system. We know that somewhere in the Internet is a certain web page, but what means "where" to us is how (through which other web sites) we can reach that web page. This "where" has nothing to do with the physical location of the web page, it may not even be at the same place all the time, and we may have no idea in what part of the world is the computer where this web page is stored. Also this "where" may not even interest us. And everything in the Internet, both its content and its connections, is also constantly changing, so Internet is an example of changing interconnectedness, or "holomovement" as it is also sometimes called.

The only thing which Internet lacks is the ability to self-develop, people operate the Internet and thus also perform its self-development. For that reason Internet, when taken alone, is not consciousness.

 Artificial Consciousness ADS-AC project
Last edited by tkorrovi @ 11/9/2010 8:55:00 PM

awwware
posted 11/10/2010  10:22Send e-mail to userReply with quote
 
tkorrovi wrote @ 11/9/2010 8:45:00 PM:
Internet indeed looks like the best model of consciousness, and the Universe, which is currently available to everyone. It is an example of an interconnected system. We know that somewhere in the Internet is a certain web page, but what means "where" to us is how (through which other web sites) we can reach that web page. This "where" has nothing to do with the physical location of the web page, it may not even be at the same place all the time, and we may have no idea in what part of the world is the computer where this web page is stored. Also this "where" may not even interest us. And everything in the Internet, both its content and its connections, is also constantly changing, so Internet is an example of changing interconnectedness, or "holomovement" as it is also sometimes called.

The only thing which Internet lacks is the ability to self-develop, people operate the Internet and thus also perform its self-development. For that reason Internet, when taken alone, is not consciousness.

 
I agree as of yet internet is not consciousness. R.Llinas is even of the opinion, that unless incorporated within or accessed by a robot, who can experience motricity, internet will never be conscious. I agree that the looseness of the connections of today is indeed not a good starting point to develop consciousness. However, by implementing principles as a fixed Hub-highway structure (see my article on IP), a motricity and a timing principle as described by Llinas, I hope around 2030 the idea of developing a conscious internet can be implemented.

 IP claims on a conscious web

Humans R Algorithms
posted 10/13/2011  18:15Send e-mail to userReply with quote
googleALAN ...is a step closer. Maybe we should sell Alan to google :P

Last edited by Humans R Algorithms @ 10/13/2011 6:18:00 PM
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